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DMD is the way. Iāve been using it all year, and havenāt found anything that comes remotely close in terms of GPS speed/accuracy, screen brightness, ease of use in terms of creating tracks, or loading tracks you made elsewhere. Hardware features like āRain lockā are also nice. Seamless integration with Google Drive/Dropbox in the main DMD nav app, and because itās Android, you can use it with GMaps, GaiaGPS, and Netflix on your K1600.
I recently hopped on Ginoās DMD Train (the navigation software, try it out, itās excellent) but, true to form, have gone the TemuADV.com route vs the $1k tablet route. @MoJoe has been right there with me:
- Samsung 3 rugged tablet, refurbād, unlocked (so can add to phone plan if I want)
- RAM mount from EBay
- Picked up Rade Garage rally screen for 790, to create more space in the tower. Comes with a nav bar
Have it loosely mounted, see pics below. Was missing a couple bolts to secure it all, those came in. Will tighten everything up and take it for a spin tomorrow.
Itās fookinā huge but at least now I donāt have to buy a flat screen to watch the Superbowl this year.
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Thatās sweet!
Yep, can get caught up on the latest season Stranger Things.
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Iāve run several Garmins from the GPS V to the Zumo. A little over a year ago went to the Carpuride W603. I canāt fault it. I use OnX Offroad for making routes and running GPX files. They have a good CarPlay App thatās worked well for me in some very remote places. I switch over to Google Maps for finding restaurants and stuff. Can control my music and keep in touch with Mrs. 309. Iāve shaken the hell out of the thing and it keeps working. Not bad for less than $150.
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Thatās pretty sweet. How wide is it including the mount? Wondering how well that would fit behind the stock windscreen.
This was the most visible and functional nav setup Iāve used so far:
It is a Samsung Galaxy Tab Active 3 (Currently $99 on Amazon) running DMD2 for navigation, Gaia for route building, OnX Offroad and Cotrex for locating trail networks. I tried an Active 5 as well and there is no point in upgrading for this application.
There are upgraded tablets available from DMD2 and they seem to be worth it if youāre going to use their whole system which includes screw-type connectors for power and auxiliary handlebar controls. These features were not worth the price to me, your mileage may vary.
I used DMD2 for about 10k miles this year, including Richās BDR trip. Iām colorblind and I like to ride quickly in unfamiliar areas, so the combination of the simple uncluttered maps, options for high viz mode, and the 8ā screen mounted high on the bike meant that I could actually see the map while riding a brisk and bumpy pace. DMD2 also has the best on-the-fly offline navigation feature, which is a game changer for exploring and changing plans quickly. You can auto generate a route to any selected point and tailor it based on trail difficulty, or road access. In real life this meant I was more comfortable wandering off and always being able to quickly calculate range and trail difficulty to the next camp or refuel point.
The tablet is a bit heavy. I assembled and braced a custom cradle for it. There are a variety of mounting options but you will find that more weight on rough trails accentuates any weakness in your nav tower or mounting setup.
My close second favorite setup is just an old android phone running the same DMD2 software mounted horizontally in the same location. The lighter weight and lower overall nav tower height is the main advantage here.
Lots of options out there these days. I like rugged stuff that works well but costs an amount that Iām willing to toss down a mountain or drop in a river.
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This is what Iāve been running for about 3-4yrs, cheap, rugged Android burner. I will continue to run this, with DMD and/or Gaia, in the 500.
Side by side comparison of the two options:
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The tablet + mount is 10ā x 5ā. And with this particular mount, the right side slides to the right so you insert the tablet, so thatās another consideration.
Hereās another much lower profile mount:
Fit with stock screen: it wonāt, at least without sourcing a good mount.
You need to find one that mounts to the GPS platform on the dash, with an arm that then extends the tablet rearward from the screen, while also getting it high enough to not obscure the TFT.
Iāve found that mounting a nav bar to the 790 GPS base opens up many more mounting options.
The RG rally screen was about $130 and included a navigation bar. Shipping was fookin $75 so I convinced @MoJoe to get one also so we could split shipping cost.
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What mount are you using for the tablet? Also, looks like you have a ramskin on the tablet?
The refurb galaxy tab 3 will be just fine!
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Iāve just put together (tonight!) this super-cheap setup similar to @309 Saulās:
- carpuride clone $50
- cheap ram ball mount and ram mount for ktm 890s
Kinda bummed to just now realize DMD2 doesnāt dance with Android Auto. Gonna give OnX a shot since I bought a subscription already.
The cheap carpuride clone seems pretty decent but time will tell. I like the 6.25" size - kind of a goldilocks, not-too-small, not-too-big size.
And, yeah, I know Iām missing a windshield - coming Monday!
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Update after my ride today, first with this tablet setup. Everything is about 95% good. That is, in retrospect, Iād go with the Hondo Garage tablet mount vs this RAM mount. The table is already pretty big and the mount just adds some additional width to it. I found myself futzing around with it to get it right, more because of the mount vs the table.
Bummer that DMD doesnāt work with there devices.
Still, I got a refurbished big ass tablet with 2yr warranty for less than $150 OTD. Very good value and more versatile than these mirror units
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While I am kind of kicking myself for not going the route of dedicated rugged phone or tablet that runs its own software, I took my $50 carplay setup for a ride this weekend. It actually did quite well. Not laggy at all. And the mount setup worked great. The screen was a great size and plenty bright enough.
I used Google maps on the road which worked perfectly. Off-road I used OnX which is a pretty impressive piece of software, although not as moto oriented as DMD.
Overall the setup is light years beyond my experience with a Garmin so I think Iāll keep it for a while and see how it goes.
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The wife and I both run Carpurides on our bikes. I have the bigger one on my 890 and she has the smaller one on her 390. We use Onx, only have one account and can both use at the same time. They are awesome. Had them for 2 years now. Did the SD BDRx, parts of the Wyoming BDR and several weekend trips without a problem.
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Rumor has it DMD is set to release another version of its hardware that is somewhere in between tablet and phone size, but performs like the tablet. Iāve heard the software on the smaller phone size is a bit clunky.
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Nice!
I have the phone. No issues at all. Itās just a hair small IMO. Good for handlebar mount though.
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