Riders for WY and/or MT BDR

Hi All, just moved to Colorado, Evergreen/Denver area. Own a KTM 500 excf 2024 and looking for ride pals interested in dual sport / BDR / moto camping type of rides.
Skill intermediate/advance, been riding on and off for the past 20 years. Laid back looking for same. Own a pick-up track so can haul and carpool.

Looking to form a group of 3-5 riders to do the WY and/or the MT BDR this summer (July, August, early September). All camping or mix of camping and hotels. Intermediate to advance riders only. If interested, DM, and we’ll start putting pen to paper.

Hey Christian, welcome!

Other than the big MT trip in September (which I will miss), I’m not aware of another being planned for Wyoming or Montana.

Others can pipe up as well, but we do a lot of local rides like today’s @LeightonCash Passapalooza Ride™️, and tomorrow’s Dirt Church ride as a way to get to know each other, vet new-to-the-club riders, and generally spread information and our culture about how we run rides. Rich and I have put a lot of effort into building some standards (check out START HERE) so that when folks show up on a BCADV ride, they’re always run the same way, everyone knows what’s expected of them, and everybody comes home safely.

That may be why no one has responded to this thread yet. I highly encourage you to join us on some local rides, and definitely come to the moto social at the end of the month. You can find all this stuff under EVENTS & RIDE PLANS

We DO encourage people to plan rides though, and then that van, it’s awesome to see you post this first! Rich and I can only carry/plan so many, and it’s excellent to see other folks posting up rides and trips. Take a look at some of those, and you’ll get a sense of how we gauge interest, and then start to hone down who is actually coming on a ride.

For me personally, my riding season has been super sporadic and not ideal due to travel, a remodel, and now getting ready to move over the next few weeks. I will likely be out of the country part of August, and then again in September. Hectic summer, but I will be doing the Steamboat Color Cruise again in September, and I’m still holding out hope of getting in a late September go at the Montana BDR, or at least part of it. I just can’t put anything in stone (like it’s been all year)) until a few things settle down.

Gino, this is great info, thank you for all the pointers. I’ll certainly join the local rides and get to know the group. Re: MTBDR for September, where can I get more info? I’m super interested in this one. Thanks

That one is a member’s only ride, so everyone is a known factor. You can read up on how to become a member and what that actually means in the FAQ that I linked to above.

Will do, when is it?

Hi Christian,

I’m leading this ride but it’s closed, with 6 riders.

Not BDR but I’ve been starting to plan a long weekend motocamp trip up to Laramie / Vedauwoo. Back roads, no i25/287, drop into Laramie on the way back. I’m thinking it’ll be riding around to find a camp spot that cars can’t get to, since I’ve van camped there but couldn’t access deeper spots.

I’m on a crf300 rally and am on the beginner side of the off-road moto scale. Based in Boulder, my background is more bikepacking/bike touring and like to check out ‘side quests’ along the route.

Open to anyone, hit me up!

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Good opportunity discuss a bit re the culture of the club we’re trying to build here.

Over the past 10-15yrs, social media platforms like Facebook have become the default operating system (?) for clubs and social groups. Consider the two bike FB ADV rider groups in Colorado, with >11k “members” and ~7k “members” respectively.

Members in quotes because they’re not members of a club or a group. Rather, they are large collections of randos aggregated by a social media platform in order to sell their attention to advertisers. And I know from experience, as I’ve done this many times with these other groups / pages, that when you organize a ride on these platforms you often get just that…a group of unvetted randos showing up to engage in an activity where, in less than 30 minutes on the trail you can get to a place that will take you all day to walk out on foot if something goes sidewise.

I have a raft of stories of unvetted group rides going sideways – 12 guys in Baja with 2 of them carrying drugs across the border, guys with a 12 pack in their backpacks, shotgunning beers at intersections, helo evacs of injured riders, having to physically eject a douchebag from a 3 day ride by throwing his keys into the bushes while the rest of us just rode away. More locally relevant, I’ve done 2x mini-COBDRs with one of these groups and each were an absolute shit show of 15+ riders, no real leadership, no group SOPs, no comms, and the dangerous combination of under-skilled and over-biked riders.

The fact is that ADV riding is a risky, dangerous activity and when things go sideways you want mature, dependable, capable problem solvers with you. In fact, I consider every group ride to be an interview, as I assess who is an asset and who’s a potential liability. IE, who I want to ride with and who I will activity avoid riding with in the future.

The model that Gino and I are following is a cycling club: real people who connect, socialize and ride with each other in the real world. Group riding SOPs and, more importantly, every full member has been vetted by having to attend a ride before we take their whole $30/yr membership fee. In fact, we absolutely will not take your money or let you join until you’ve attending a club ride.

And multi-day rides of a BDR flavor or other will always be limited to full, paid members of the club. This is to ensure that everyone on the ride has been through this in-person vetting process.

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